Posts by problemaddict 2

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If You Question The Governing Body, You're Like Korah

by pale.emperor in

anyone who questions the governing bodys authority is labelled as an apostate and almost always they bring up the story of korah and his revolt against moses.. watchtower august 1st, 2002, the article loyally submit to godly authority paragraphs 8-15.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563.

in not so subtle hint, the gb likens themselves to moses, and those who disagree with the gb are korah.. paragraph 15 is actually quite damaging to the gb's argument though:.

it was so unnecessary for all those people to lose their lives.

problemaddict 2

This has been a comparison I have used in speaking to people. Its damning, because in this scenario, the GB compares themselves to an actual prophet....Moses.

So in order for me to be Korah....they need to be Moses. But......where is the evidence they are Moses of today? Didn't Jesus rebuke the Pharisees for "seating themselves in the seat of Moses"?

In the end, it comes down to authority. the bible says "all authority in heaven and on earth" was given Jesus when he ascended. So.......after that.......did he give it to anyone? At best, they can claim special "responsibility", which is very different than authority. This is not just a semantics argument. There is a HUGE difference between responsibility and authority.

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Asking for help with wife

by Are you serious in

hello everyone, my wife wants nothing to do with my awakening.

every time i try explaining something she tells me she doesn't want to hear it.

i believe she's afraid of learning something she's not ready for.

problemaddict 2

If my wife can get out.....anyone can. She was a pioneer for 15 years striaght, DC parts, all that. Daughter of missionaries etc...

I had to reassure her that I was only doind what i was doing based on principle, and that she was the most important person in my life. The subconscious tells her that i am going to leave her, be a bad person, etc... the more i talked about my doubts.....the more she fought me.

I finally told her I would support her in whatever she decided, because I loved her unconditionally. I would love to speak to her WITHOUT her feeling like I am "trying to convince her" of anything. More than anything, I just reassured her of my love for her, let her see the emotion of what i was going through and be vulnerable (it was a rough exit).

Then she felt safe to talk, and we eventually found out what her thing was. Everyone has a different path....your wife included.

But do not reverse preach to her. I can't think of anyone that has woken up that way. Focus on reassuring her.

My wife is out....she is taking the kids trick or treating tonight. :)

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Stagnation of JWs in Britain

by darkspilver in

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this is an 'off-topic' continuation of this discussion.

steve2: in britain, growth of publishers is slowing down, if not stagnating.

darkspilver: .

problemaddict 2

On a large scale, worldwise population goes up by about 1.1% each year.

Last year the JW's had an increase of 1.3%

In that sense they could be said to be outpacing growth of population worldwide.

If you remove the rates of south america and Aftrica however, you find an increase of only about .4%.

So extrapolate what you like there. I would suggest that south america and africa, while lovely continents, also are still largely developing, and are sort of ripe for JW preaching (catholic countries that have experienced grand hypocrisy for example).

That would just be my personal observation of course.

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Polish EX-JW Activism compilation video

by WTS Archive in

i'd like to show you a short video i made about exjw activism in poland.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt3qdtyxgd8.

i'm one of the people responsible for those information campaigns/protests, so you can ask me anything you like.

there's a lot i didn't show on the video because of the limited time i have for editing, i have tons of footage more.

problemaddict 2

Can I just say.....I LOVE the "anti-cart".

We need to do some of that here. Imagine just setting up opposite a JW cart, dressed nicely.......just sitting there. I am cracking myself up thinking about this.

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

problemaddict 2

Why they are killed, mumified, and buried ext to their husbands of course.

No but really....im sure each circumstance is different. Did they have children? Do they own a home somewhere? Rest assured, the branch is onmy taking care of these old ladies if they have exhausted all other possibilities.

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Uber Cart Witnessing at the State Fair

by truth_b_known in

last thursday i bunch of us working decided we were going to head down to the state fair and badge our way in to get a fletcher's corny dog for lunch.

we had to go to a specific gate to park and show our credentials to get in.

this meant driving halfway around the perimeter of the entire fairgrounds.

problemaddict 2

Dark,

Its still their grounds. They are there at the pleasure of the fair grounds. If they are city owned, than elected officials would be the point of contact. Even better because.....you know.....they dont even vote. No reprocussions from the constituency.

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“There’s nothing out there in the world for you...”

by Jules Saturn in

how would you guys react if or when you were told this phrase by a jw while having a conversation?

another phrase is “this world...” or “this system, like gum will chew you up and when it’s done with you, spit you right back out.”.

one i’ve been personally told was from a convert that had told me “whenever i speak to young ones that want to know if the grass is greener on the other side, i tell them i was a part of it.

problemaddict 2

There is no answer. If you leave and then crash and burn, its because you left the loving protection of the fold, Jehovah removed his spirit, etc... (of course.....if you are being shunned loosing your family and entire social structure could play a part)

If you leave, and thrive.....well then Satan is taking care of tjose who are his own to make sure you wont come back, and you have clearly shown "love" for the world. You are truely hopeless.

I mean.....this is 100% accurate. You cant win.

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Uber Cart Witnessing at the State Fair

by truth_b_known in

last thursday i bunch of us working decided we were going to head down to the state fair and badge our way in to get a fletcher's corny dog for lunch.

we had to go to a specific gate to park and show our credentials to get in.

this meant driving halfway around the perimeter of the entire fairgrounds.

problemaddict 2

Yikes. Well take it from someone who has done this with some success. Find out who organizes the fair locally (this is the person that runs the fairgrounds). You can usually find oit who is in charge of selling space from one of the vendors. Might have to make a call or 2. Bit send a professionally written e mail, explaining in simple terms why this was something that bothered you, could reflect negatively on the grounds, and was at best incredibly "ironic" because of the family atmosphere. No doubt at the fair, all the family happiness books are out there. Explain a couple inconsistancies. Maybe quote some magazines. It works.

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Mexico News Daily: Blood transfusion case before Supreme Court

by AndersonsInfo in

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/blood-transfusion-case-before-supreme-court/.

blood transfusion case before supreme court.

mother refuses transfusion on religious grounds for daughter with leukemia.

problemaddict 2

Imagine being a mother with a 5 year old that has Leukemia. Terrible already.

Now imagine that while treatable, the treatment is a no-go for your religion.

Now you are refusing, and using lawyers and the state regional authorities to essentially argue for your right to refuse what might very well be the only way your child will live further. You probably don't understand much of what is going on. (don't know where the father is because he isn't mentioned).

You are going to court for the right to kill your 5 year old, while not wanting your 5 year old to die.

She may never forgive herself.

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JW Broadcasting: Russian Convention Travel Report w/Mark Sanderson

by pale.emperor in

https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201709_12_video.

a few things about this video:.

it's very nice that they managed to host a convention for the russian brothers and sisters, and that they all got fed.

problemaddict 2

I am quite certain a Russian visitors visa requires a return ticket date. It seems obvious to me that the entourage either...

A) Was not all comprised of guys who had flown in (ie: some people had no tickets.....not all)

B) They had tickets and just needed to "move them up" because they were in a hirry. I suppose it sounds less miraculous that way.

C) Its completely made up.

I think its B. But A is viable if, Sandersons possie really rolls that deep?!